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Lawmakers worry about East Coast refining capacity

Reuters -- With the East Coast poised to lose 50 percent of its oil refining capacity, three members of Congress on Monday worried that while the country is producing more of its own crude oil, it might grow more dependent on other countries for gasoline and diesel fuel.

Pennsylvania Congressman Pat Meehan hosted a panel of energy experts for a field meeting in Aston, Pennsylvania, of the Committee on Homeland Security.

Meehan and two other legislators, Congressmen John Carney from neighboring Delaware and Mike Fitzpatrick from Bucks County, Pennsylvania, peppered the experts with questions about fuel prices and logistics as well as national security.

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Submitted Mar 21, 2012 By: Mudsprings

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,609 Points:1,608,545 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 24, 2012 6:03:14 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse tomok: look at all the NIMBYs.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,980 Points:2,344,535 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 22, 2012 3:07:27 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Lawmakers worry about East Coast refining capacity? And the lawmakers need to worry about it! No local refineries, no local fuel produced. Big oil is selling fuel and natural gas on the world market for higher prices, there will be NO price reduction for the cost of fuel or natural gas IN the US. Barry will support natural gas and oil production for sale on the world market to pay for his ‘spending gone wild’ addiction. The US ‘oil and natural gas resources’ belong to the citizens of this country and are to be used by those same citizens! Speculators, manipulators and the banks continue to unfairly and unjustly make the driving public pay higher prices at the pump for their benefit. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost, if possible. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
C.Carpets All-Star Author Oakland Posts:543 Points:2,088,260 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Mar 22, 2012 2:24:23 AM Ignore C.Carpets Report Abuse My hope is gas will be over $7. come November. And Americans will be mad enough to Clean House. Starting with the White one, & working down to the House of Congress & the House of the Senate.
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,487 Points:1,509,105 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Mar 22, 2012 1:09:07 AM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse I worry about lawmakers. 230 days until the elections.
geminijax Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:16,826 Points:2,726,700 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 22, 2012 12:16:08 AM Ignore geminijax Report Abuse JimL1, over the last many years, I've observed that the mainstream Dem voters tend to be far more ignorant when it comes to financial matters than their Republican counterparts. Anyone who truly believes that the Dems are indeed looking out for the little guy is a good candidate to buy beachfront property in Nevada. Look up the 2009 NY state budget and the tax increases it contained. That's an excellent example of how the Dems put the tax screws on the little guy. What's really sad is the Dem voter base never realized that the very same politicians they put into office were taxing them even more!
boborobot All-Star Author Michigan Posts:501 Points:415,800 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 11:24:04 PM Ignore boborobot Report Abuse Need a big change in November.
goldrose1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:10,931 Points:1,923,530 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 11:04:43 PM Ignore goldrose1 Report Abuse Need refineries near source of oil, especially if gas is there to fuel it.
CostControl Champion Author San Antonio Posts:13,364 Points:2,029,425 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:47:45 PM Ignore CostControl Report Abuse Do you remember seeing Westerns with John Wayne, Gene Autry, Roy Rogers, William Boyd as HOP ALONG CASSIDY where the wealthy bankers & land owners got all the water rights usually crooked & then charged crazy EXCESSIVE prices for water that should have been free or diverted at 1/4 of the price...Well these EXCESSIVE FUEL PRICES is the 21st Century Version of that... SAD THING IS THAT OUR GOVERNMENT whose job & duty it is to support, defend & protect USA Citizens are not & in fact are cheating & stealing from WE THE PEOPLE! Now if all of this ripping off USA Citizens continues then hopefully WE THE PEOPLE will unite & ACT instead of talk! FACT - IF WE THE PEOPLE DO NOTHING THEN WE THE PEOPLE DESERVE WHAT WE GET! Comments?
Rednix Champion Author Miami Posts:6,148 Points:1,274,535 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:38:35 PM Ignore Rednix Report Abuse Why are we losing 50%?
drz614 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,294 Points:596,645 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:37:28 PM Ignore drz614 Report Abuse really? maybe they'll do something in 10 years.
KY_Homeboy Veteran Author Kentucky Posts:303 Points:362,230 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:35:25 PM Ignore KY_Homeboy Report Abuse Another 'reason' for gas price increases . . .
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,212 Points:871,865 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:30:04 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse Maybe those Congressmen should talk to the EPA about onerous regulation.
passin_gas2011 All-Star Author Ohio Posts:750 Points:141,595 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:26:38 PM Ignore passin_gas2011 Report Abuse yes,,,okay...
babugp Veteran Author Philadelphia Posts:339 Points:76,685 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:20:04 PM Ignore babugp Report Abuse yep
ericbcire Champion Author Nevada Posts:4,515 Points:1,266,260 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:18:39 PM Ignore ericbcire Report Abuse Stop the unnecessary regulation.
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,300 Points:1,636,970 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:16:39 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse TIME WILL TELL HOW IT GOES!
Ticoman54 Champion Author Miami Posts:7,041 Points:1,491,045 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:12:49 PM Ignore Ticoman54 Report Abuse More reason to increase prices.
duffee01 All-Star Author Mississippi Posts:776 Points:427,265 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:12:26 PM Ignore duffee01 Report Abuse If the Fricking Government wants to get into everyones business, this would be a place they could get in and do some good. Help the taxpayer instead of sticking it to the taxpayer!!!! What say you???? We deserve a break today and hopefully it won't be our backs!!!!!!!!!!
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,324 Points:1,531,150 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:10:11 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse Just watch at the bridges at Buffalo, Detriot and Port Huron as well as others and there are streams of American fuel tankers crossing the border into Canada to pickup fuel at their refineries and it has not stopped or slowed down for the last thirty years.
Jeffro61 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,267 Points:2,284,895 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:07:16 PM Ignore Jeffro61 Report Abuse Just what big oil wants, a tighter supply. Keep it up and the country will be in a world of hurt.
Hoporrene Veteran Author Mississippi Posts:312 Points:206,970 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:05:39 PM Ignore Hoporrene Report Abuse I need the people who are trying to get in OFFICE, to start focusing on all major issues, instead of throwing eachother under the bus, to get our votes. I'm starting not to care about the elections anymore.
DrLyon Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,645 Points:1,211,005 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:03:06 PM Ignore DrLyon Report Abuse Time to just build more...
Barfood Champion Author St. Louis Posts:3,296 Points:1,016,580 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:02:03 PM Ignore Barfood Report Abuse Sounds like a bill with Lincoln's picture will soon buy a gallon of gasoline.
76chevy Champion Author Toledo Posts:3,992 Points:770,140 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:01:00 PM Ignore 76chevy Report Abuse Because they are using that more expensive imported oil, like obummer wants. How's that hopey changey thing workin fer ya?!?!?!? I wouldn't kick a dog in the a-- for obama! [Edited by: 76chevy at 3/21/2012 10:01:45 PM EST]
Bleeder Champion Author Virginia Posts:8,038 Points:1,699,625 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:00:55 PM Ignore Bleeder Report Abuse They have a lot more to worry about.
ratones1 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:2,907 Points:731,005 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:00:31 PM Ignore ratones1 Report Abuse OK...
bif65 Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,023 Points:195,230 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:59:59 PM Ignore bif65 Report Abuse ok
grapevinemcse Rookie Author Fort Worth Posts:42 Points:227,765 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:59:30 PM Ignore grapevinemcse Report Abuse There are lots of fuel resources out there that are being wasted.
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,889 Points:1,919,005 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:57:33 PM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse I see a lot of crying about relaxing regulations so refineries will stay in business, and cost too much to build or expand to use the tar sands etc. It only took about 3 and a half years to expand the ConocoPhillips Wood River Refinery to refine the tar sands oil. There was a great urgency to get it started but their were regulations that were insisted on which held the project up. One of those was: We should have standards of air quality as good as those in California. Why would you rush to have jobs and your community die of cancer and other health problems from tons of toxic waste? Sure we wanted the jobs! We didn't address manufacturing and supplying the pipeline and it was ordered from India which was a blow to the area's employment. Just bribing your town with a little league uniforms and a ball park is peanuts to the industry. You have to have regulations and have them up front if we are to exist together.
fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,282 Points:559,080 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:56:40 PM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse Than we should build more refineries lawmakers or gas prices will keep going up and that is not what we want.
gasaholicMO Champion Author Missouri Posts:2,621 Points:510,940 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:56:22 PM Ignore gasaholicMO Report Abuse Still haven't heard why they want to shut it down.
fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,282 Points:559,080 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:55:30 PM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse We need to build more refineriesas ones are getting old and need new ones.
kbierley Champion Author Dayton Posts:10,730 Points:1,415,690 Joined:Nov 2003	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:55:11 PM Ignore kbierley Report Abuse Now they worry?
rxman1 Champion Author Toledo Posts:9,540 Points:1,860,920 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:54:25 PM Ignore rxman1 Report Abuse OK, now after they close they pay attention.
prcoqui Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,950 Points:1,673,200 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:48:19 PM Ignore prcoqui Report Abuse That will keep the price high for a very long time.
Tucker1961 Champion Author Seattle Posts:2,157 Points:363,170 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:47:11 PM Ignore Tucker1961 Report Abuse instead of worry why don'y they do something about it
jdc17327 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,555 Points:197,690 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:45:22 PM Ignore jdc17327 Report Abuse why is the Democrats fault & not the Republicans?
g747 Champion Author Mobile Posts:4,536 Points:932,695 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:43:19 PM Ignore g747 Report Abuse That doesn't make much sense@ all.We need to make the oil companies put them back on line,by law.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,165 Points:2,370,395 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:39:26 PM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse the epa hasnt allowed a new refinery in over 30 years, and now they are regulating existing refineries out of business. keep electing barry, harry and nancy types and enjoy the results. when we start importing chinese refined products, dont complain.
darkknight1 Champion Author Winston-Salem Posts:4,330 Points:894,860 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:34:56 PM Ignore darkknight1 Report Abuse We're screwed.
MotoDad Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,106 Points:812,015 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:30:10 PM Ignore MotoDad Report Abuse Somebody do something.
stephen2155 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,019 Points:657,055 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:28:48 PM Ignore stephen2155 Report Abuse Really!!,!!!!!
BBHybrid Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:6,465 Points:1,294,070 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:25:39 PM Ignore BBHybrid Report Abuse let's see... the frickin' government puts in finger in every other pie, find the solution, encourage refineries and drilling (safely) and prices will come down to $180/gallon again. END SPECULATION.
TableTalk Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,184 Points:557,200 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:21:34 PM Ignore TableTalk Report Abuse So NOW it's finally a national security issue after how many decades?
mikesr100 Champion Author Sacramento Posts:3,888 Points:1,079,760 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:18:30 PM Ignore mikesr100 Report Abuse EPA and state regulations are driving them out of some states.
walkingtall Champion Author Toronto Posts:3,989 Points:1,119,730 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:15:33 PM Ignore walkingtall Report Abuse Oil companies have figured out more profit with less oil.
JimL1 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:8,217 Points:1,241,520 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:14:58 PM Ignore JimL1 Report Abuse The Republicans have been lying and brainwashing the American people for so long it is not funny. Remember the stories about John Kerry's military service and his medals. Look it up on Snopes.com. Why do I bring this up? Simple it demonstrates that The Republicans have been lying to us for a long time and sabotaging Democrat candidates with lies for a very long time. Do you believe anything that the Republicans say? If so you are a fool.
theschmuck Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,912 Points:1,510,650 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:14:10 PM Ignore theschmuck Report Abuse Why are EXPORTING perfectly good products to foreign countries when our own needs are being ignored by the powers to be. Time to give them a present of ties, placed in the proper place, and the trees to have a swinging good time.
zonkthegreat Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,642 Points:275,175 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:13:45 PM Ignore zonkthegreat Report Abuse <============== Get off the oil nipple and quit wineing about it!
SilentpartnerMN Champion Author Minnesota Posts:1,621 Points:476,165 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:13:23 PM Ignore SilentpartnerMN Report Abuse The lawmakers should worry about the East Coast refining. It is their regulations that caused the refineries to shut down. Now they can correct it.