honda0105
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2012 6:02:33 AM
opinion piece and lots of hot air.
EtOH will damage vehicle engines, esp. those that are not built in the last 4 or 5 years.
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remay
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 2:27:50 PM
Maybe NOT the engine, specifically...
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NedW
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 8:09:06 AM
To find ethanol-free gas stations in your area for the U.S. and Canada go to:
http://www.pure-gas.org/
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1006
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 7:32:42 AM
you will eventually have ethanol problems
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tomok
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 5:08:08 AM
Most of the vehicle engines operating on today's roads and small motors in backyards are Not designed for an Ethanol mix. The gaskets, rubber and plastic parts will corrode and degrade over time when exposed to ethanol. Then the engine will have to be rebuilt in order to operate correctly.
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost, if possible.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
12/22/2012!
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OilOnTheCheap
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 1:01:28 AM
The moisture in ethanol is not good for any engine.
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tidalwave3
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 12:30:13 AM
This does not agree with what I've found out :(
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Dodge_Me
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 12:10:48 AM
Try ethanol straight up and see what happens to that engine
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nc43bike
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 12:07:31 AM
SammyAdams:
I did not know about Florida's restriction on E0; now that I know, I may have to make arrangements to avoid buying any gas at all in FL the next time I visit your fair state.
BTW, I also make it a point to buy gas in TN. The last time I was there, the E0 was $3.21 vs $3.34 for E10 in my town.
And I make it a point to test the E0 to make sure it IS E0.
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SavALot
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 12:05:44 AM
Yet another attempt at people trying to sway opinions on ethanol
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mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 12:04:50 AM
Maybe it's an urban myth but I think it does damage car engines over time.
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langolera
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 12:04:04 AM
bull chit!!! is nothing like the gas we were making 30 years ago!!!
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flahusky
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 12:03:27 AM
ok
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gus8441
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 12:02:44 AM
i disagree
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bababooey2
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 12:02:18 AM
Sure.
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TheSicilian
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 12:01:23 AM
won't help it
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coughlin
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 12:01:09 AM
No food for fuel.
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ExplorerWA
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:58:29 PM
I don't believe it........more misinformation.
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BackwoodsPundit
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:58:05 PM
It is a not so slow poison in small engines and their parts - fuel filers, carbs, lines, etc.
And unlike iocane powder, you dont build up an immunity to phase shifted gasoline, the effects are cumulative Ethanol absorbs thousands of times more water than petrol does. And it only takes a few teaspoons of water to ruin a gallon of petrol
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tessnlu
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:56:28 PM
well let me tell you otherwise. You are a Talking Head for the ethanol industry!
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:56:22 PM
Ethanol at 5% (Canadian standard) may not harm a modern car engine, which is supposedly designed to use E10, but I would not use it if there was any alternative. Ethanol will definitely reduce fuel mileage. I use only E-free and get about 20% better overall gas mileage than the EPA highway rating for my vehicle. Ethanol is death on small engines like lawn mowers, chain saws, trimmers, etc.
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DandyDapple
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:56:14 PM
My Dad, a mechanic for 45+ yrs did a test with both reg gas and ethanol blends ... Long story short ... Reg gas did much better with mileage and performance ... found that ethanol ruined several small engines ...
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bigdog467
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:55:28 PM
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SammyAdams
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:55:06 PM
From the article: " Ethanol produces less energy per unit than gasoline, so is detrimental to fuel mileage, but it is cheaper than gasoline so adding more than required is one way for refiners to pad their profits."
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In Tennessee I pay the same price for ethanol blended fuel or for pure gasoline, but the mileage (mpg's) is noticeably better with the pure gasoline. If (as this article insists) there is less energy in the ethanol blended fuel (hence poorer mileage), I only buy pure gasoline when in Tennessee.
In Florida, it is apparently against the law for a fueling station to dispense non-ethanol gas directly into a car's tank. It's okay to dispense it into a fuel container which is later put into a vehicle's tank, but not directly into a car's tank.
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saleboss
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:52:24 PM
Get rid of all the ethanol blends!!
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waynester1955
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:52:04 PM
The jury is out
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bluetatanka
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:49:24 PM
Yeah, right!?
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Is246
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:48:34 PM
So all the moisture that comes out of the tailpipe is good for our cars???
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RAKARWOWSKI
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:47:50 PM
If it didn't hurt your car, they wouldn't have been changing it all these years...
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mrinmoyd
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:46:21 PM
ok
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Petrothirst
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:43:19 PM
Yeah, RIGHT!
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EmperorsFinest
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:42:56 PM
I don't believe it
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rampower80
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:41:39 PM
It may not ruin it, but it will run much better and more fuel efficient with pure gasoline.
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RitaVespa
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:41:14 PM
I don't agree
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OceansidePoms
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:40:48 PM
NOT TRUE! ETHANOL SUCKS! It is GARBAGE! IT SHOULD BE SEPARATE FROM GASOLINE, WE SHOULD HAVE THE FULL CHOICE! NO E-10 NO E ANYTHING. IT SHOULD BE 100% GASOLINE OR ETHANOL FOR ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO WANTS CORN CRAP IN THEIR CARS! PURE 100% GASOLINE, ESPECIALLY PREMIUM 93 IS WAY BETTER! THAT IS ALL I WILL USE! NO ETHANOL FOR ME! NEVER EVER! I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO PAY EXTRA FOR MY V-POWER AT MY LOCAL SHELL, IT IS PREMIUM 93 - ETHANOL FREE, AT REGULAR PREMIUM PRICE, TODAY IT IS $3.58. NO NO NO ETHANOL! & IF YOU DO WANT IT, GO AHEAD, BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE FORCED, JUST LIKE RELIGION OR OPINIONS OR DECISIONS!
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CapNC
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:40:48 PM
even ruins lawnmowers
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DEG
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:39:17 PM
It will cause the car parts to wear out sooner and it decreases fuel economy.
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mplato
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:36:38 PM
oh sure...2 weeks ago it would hurt the engine..get it straight
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zaq001
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:35:55 PM
ok
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Minutefan
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:34:01 PM
I haven't had any problems.
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CAroadrunner101
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:31:36 PM
oh really...
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wild3bill
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:29:13 PM
Maybe if you have a Flexfuel enginne. Remember those Fools in the EPA forced Ultra low Diesel on everybode. Diesels before 2007 have $2000. diesel injection pumps failing at an alarming rate. my 98 and 2003 VW had injection pumps wear out
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carloco75
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:29:00 PM
It hurts the pocket in the long run either way...
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dabbadu
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:28:38 PM
Yeah, and unleaded gas is safe to drink, right?
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roadjet
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:25:47 PM
The bottom line is that ethanol comes with a lengthy list of precautions to consider, avoid and change the way you use and store gas over gasoline without it. Ethanol was a cop out to address a reduction on dependence on foreign oil and was passed into law to benefit both corn producers and ethanol manufacturers. Find an alternative to using this to blend into gasoline so small 2 & 4 cycle engines and older vehicles don't have to line the pockets of mechanics shops with excessive, unnecessary damages!!!!!
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SpankyMI
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:23:30 PM
Lier, lier your pants are on fire.
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WIPACKERFAN
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:18:28 PM
Get rid of that ethanol garbage.
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A2J
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:16:29 PM
Different story everyday..,
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serrog
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:15:04 PM
Jury is still out on this one
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IUVidiot
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 11:14:36 PM
no ethanol
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