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Coal, Renewable Energy's Dirty Step Child

Oilprice.com -- The war on coal is environmentally sound but the lack of subtlety in getting rid of this dirty energy step child is destructive and natural gas would eventually triumph over coal without hard-hitting regulations.

The reasoning is that natural gas results in around 50% of the carbon dioxide emissions for the same amount of electricity produced by coal. The catch is that in order for a coal plant to meet this carbon dioxide emissions level it must actually burn more coal to allow for the process of diverting its carbon dioxide emissions. This is how the war on coal is being played out – and the regulations are meant to ensure that no new coal plants can be built.

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Submitted Jun 22, 2012 By: NOTSOGRN

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SammyAdams Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:3,041 Points:789,860 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Jun 22, 2012 10:20:39 PM Ignore SammyAdams Report Abuse From the article: "Opposition from the Senate’s Democratic majority ensured that it wouldn’t come to that: only five Democratic senators supported the resolution, including Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia. West Virginia’s other senator, Jay Rockefeller, also a Democrat, voted against the measure, saying it “moves us backward, not forward.” ======================================================== Perhaps the citizens of West Virginia should consider this when Sen. Rockefeller come seeking their votes for his re-election. This is the SAME Jay Rockefeller who sponsored legislation to REGULATE THE INTERNET. Imagine. The MSM is already dominated by the left and Sen. Rockefeller wants the Internet, too! Get rid of him West Virginia.
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bigt61 All-Star Author Virginia Posts:652 Points:203,015 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jun 22, 2012 7:19:54 AM Ignore bigt61 Report Abuse EPA estimates compliance will annually cost the industry $9.6 billion and provide health benefits of at least $37 billion However, independent research shows that the Utility MACT Rule’s compliance costs will be $9.6 billion per year, while the direct health benefits will range from $0.5 to 6 million per year. This yields a cost-to-benefits ratio ranging from 19,200 to 1 up to 1,600 to 1. The amount of Mercury in the atmosphere has been in steep decline for many years. The largest sources of Mercury in the USA is from the oceans.
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